Nintendo’s Shigeru Miyamoto once asked ex-PlayStation boss Shuhei Yoshida his thoughts on Star Fox Zero on Wii U, and well, we’ve all been there: “Should I say my honest reaction?”

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PlayStation icon Shuhei Yoshida was once in an uncomfortable social situation pretty much everyone’s familiar with, but in his case it was with the guy who created Mario, Zelda, and Donkey Kong.

Talking to MinnMax, Yoshida shared an unfortunate encounter at E3 2015 with Nintendo legend Shigeru Miyamoto, in which the latter invited the former to play Star Fox Zero, which isn’t universally hated but also probably isn’t anyone’s favorite Star Fox game. Yoshida in particular doesn’t sound like a big fan of the game, admitting he struggled to decide whether to be honest with Miyamoto about his true feelings.

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